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    Thanks Dave. It sounds like WordPress is adding most of the things you mentioned. Some still require a developer working in the code to set up, but most of the things you mention are now there. How easy is it for the average user to take advantage of all those features?
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    Good question! Drupal 7 has certainly simplified a lot of the configuration side but Drupal is still basically a programmer's tool.

    It is interesting to note that Wordpress started as a blog engine and yet is moving toward a more robust CMS. While Drupal started as a CMS and is moving toward a more "user-friendly" GUI.

    There are tons of beautiful themes out there for Wordpress because the theme rules tend to be more rigid. Highly customized views require significant code modification. Drupal theming is highly configurable using "regions" and "blocks" to arrange page components pretty much wherever you want. A site we are currently working on has 6 different menus, 18 page styles and 48 different blocks used throughout the site - in some cases contextually based on taxonomy. This is before we define the various content types (in this case a number of product types and categories). All up it's about 200 hours of coding/graphics and QA. In addition there are numerous levels of access for individual users from the basic content adder, news editor, blogger, product catalog editors through to approvals for each + SEO. The client also wants future e-commerce capability to name but a few of the bells and whistles.

    Once we have all the content types and views built it becomes very easy for the user to add/edit content according to their access permissions. Basically we do the hard part and make the user's life as easy so adding/changing any particular piece of content is easy via an intuitive interface.

    Although all the above is possible in Wordpress it really comes down to efficiency for us. There is a tipping point where Drupal becomes the best tool for the job due to it's powerful customization features. Exactly where that tipping point is? That's a tough one.

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    I've noticed that both systems are now trying to move closer to each other. WordPress is looking to add features to make it more powerful and Drupal is looking to create a better interface and make things simpler for people.

    Basically we do the hard part and make the user's life as easy so adding/changing any particular piece of content is easy via an intuitive interface.
    That's what's happening in WordPress now. For example different content types. A develop can create a new post-type for say a recipe and add a menu item to the interface to create a new recipe. The developer would set things up so the end user has clear places to add an image, a list of ingredients, directions, and whatever else they determine they need. The hard work setting it up is done by the developer, but once done it should be very easy for the end user.

    Sounds like things are similar in Drupal.
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    Exactly. Unique interfaces for each content type. Big help for those who don't want to become web experts.
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    Yep. That makes both platforms true CMS'

    Usually when I see people talking about Drupal being able to do things that WordPress can't they seem to be talking about content types. WordPress has it now, which is why I asked originally what you saw Drupal being able to do better. I guess at this point Drupal has the advantage here since custom post types are new to WordPress and not used as commonly. The functionality is there though.
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    Yes - both can be used to build almost anything - it just comes down to which tool works best for a given application.
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    And how well you know how to work with the tool. For me it would be easier to build something with WordPress and for you it would be easier with Drupal. I'm sure either could handle most sites we would build, but we'll naturally choose the one we can work best with.
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