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    I have used Quickbooks for over 20 years. I bought my first version at Sam's Club in the early 90's. It was a DOS version and cost $30 if my memory is accurate. I learned accounting using Quickbooks even though I studied accounting in school. It was excellent software. Each new version was better. Each new version had more features. I bought many upgrades. I still have them. I wrote interface software for Quickbooks using IIF files and something called Intuit API. In my mind Quickbooks and Intuit were the Gold Standard, high quality.
    I think the best version was QB 2004. After that Intuit started implementing what I call "customer capture". "Oh, you looked at the new free trial software and loaded you data file? Well that converted you data to the new format which can only be read by the new version. You will have to get the new version."
    I sold my business and started a new business where I do the accounting again. I could not use Quickbooks 2004 because I had to get authorization code after 30 uses with a new install. Guess what? The online source for the authorization code is no longer a valid URL and the phone number is no longer a working number. When I bought the software I bought a right to use it forever. Software is no longer sold with those rights that but it was then.
    I have used Quickbooks Online for the past 9 months. I am not satisfied with the ease of use, the reports, performance or reliability. I have duplicated all of the nine months' entries into GnuCash, a free, open source accounting program. I like open source and GnuCash is good software. But it is not as good as the old Quickbooks.
    I do think the customer should always have ownership and control of the data they enter into software. That is not the way it is in the software industry. I know. My business was a software business.
    (I apologize for griping. It is very frustrating to use software that is not as good as it was in the past. Accounting software should be getting better and cheaper but the opposite is happening.)

    I do have a question: Does anybody know how I can get "authorization code" for my 2004 Quickbooks so I can use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Brown View Post
    I have used Quickbooks for over 20 years. I bought my first version at Sam's Club in the early 90's. It was a DOS version and cost $30 if my memory is accurate. I learned accounting using Quickbooks even though I studied accounting in school. It was excellent software. Each new version was better. Each new version had more features. I bought many upgrades. I still have them. I wrote interface software for Quickbooks using IIF files and something called Intuit API. In my mind Quickbooks and Intuit were the Gold Standard, high quality.
    I think the best version was QB 2004. After that Intuit started implementing what I call "customer capture". "Oh, you looked at the new free trial software and loaded you data file? Well that converted you data to the new format which can only be read by the new version. You will have to get the new version."
    I sold my business and started a new business where I do the accounting again. I could not use Quickbooks 2004 because I had to get authorization code after 30 uses with a new install. Guess what? The online source for the authorization code is no longer a valid URL and the phone number is no longer a working number. When I bought the software I bought a right to use it forever. Software is no longer sold with those rights that but it was then.
    I have used Quickbooks Online for the past 9 months. I am not satisfied with the ease of use, the reports, performance or reliability. I have duplicated all of the nine months' entries into GnuCash, a free, open source accounting program. I like open source and GnuCash is good software. But it is not as good as the old Quickbooks.
    I do think the customer should always have ownership and control of the data they enter into software. That is not the way it is in the software industry. I know. My business was a software business.
    (I apologize for griping. It is very frustrating to use software that is not as good as it was in the past. Accounting software should be getting better and cheaper but the opposite is happening.)

    I do have a question: Does anybody know how I can get "authorization code" for my 2004 Quickbooks so I can use it?
    Quickbooks is still sold in stores as a download...we sell it at Staples.

    The online is great because then your data will never get lost, it's always on the servers. Does it run a greater risk of hackers? Sure, but so does everything in the world that's not on a floppy disk. I've always loved Quickbooks, but I have been using Wave lately because I'm poor.

    Open source accounting software has always bugged me because of the fact it's open source and it handles sensitive information. That type of stuff shouldn't be open source really, if one person finds a bug you're done for if they know how to get into everyone's computers by injecting malware.

    You need to call Intuit about the authorization code and if your disk doesn't work, you have to download the software from a 3rd party.

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    Totally disagree with the open source argument -- the same kinds of bugs are in Quickbooks and other proprietary software apps, they're just covered up and folks hope nobody finds out about them. In open source, any bugs are publicized as soon as someone finds out, and fixes are usually pretty quick, since there are so many folks looking at the code.

    I especially wouldn't trust a company like Intuit without reading the license agreement very closely. Is there anything stopping them from using your data somehow, regardless of whether your storing data locally or in the cloud?

    Instead of GnuCash, have you tried PostBooks? I've not used either, but they're suppsoed to be good alternatives. I'm about to embark on probably a year long (or so) learning stint with Apache OFBiz, but that's a whole ERP and probably more than you need. Sort of like using napalm just to cook a little marshmallow...

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    You might want to try looking on eBay to see if someone has the 2004 software sitting around.
    Intuit will probably not give you a new authorization code and tell you they no longer support QB 2004.
    Normally they only support 2 years back and then tell you to upgrade.
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    I really doubt that you can get a 2004 copy of QuickBooks anywhere that has not already been registered to someone else. Good luck!

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    I think if you look on eBay long enough you will find it. I just did a quick look and there were 4 or 5 of them on the first page with 4 more pages I didn't look at. Prices start at 10 bucks with the activation code. My search was for QuickBooks 2004.
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